Showing papers in "Human Relations in 2002"
TL;DR: In this paper, the plausibility of systematically causal national cultures is questioned, and the assumptions which underlie Hofstede's claim to have uncovered the secrets of entire national cultures are described and challenged.
Abstract: Geert Hofstede’s legendary national culture research is critiqued. Crucial assumptions which underlie his claim to have uncovered the secrets of entire national cultures are described and challenged. The plausibility of systematically causal national cultures is questioned.
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TL;DR: In this paper, the authors define organizational analogs for Mead's "I" and "me" and explain how these two phases of organizational identity are related, and propose an organizational identity model based on four processes linking organizational identity to culture and image.
Abstract: Although many organizational researchers make reference to Mead’s theory of social identity, none have explored how Mead’s ideas about the relationship between the ‘I’ and the ‘me’ might be extended to identity processes at the organizational level of analysis. In this article we define organizational analogs for Mead’s ‘I’ and ‘me’ and explain how these two phases of organizational identity are related. In doing so, we bring together existing theory concerning the links between organizational identities and images, with new theory concerning how reflection embeds identity in organizational culture and how identity expresses cultural understandings through symbols. We offer a model of organizational identity dynamics built on four processes linking organizational identity to culture and image. Whereas the processes linking identity and image (mirroring and impressing) have been described in the literature before, the contribution of this article lies in articulation of the processes linking identity and c...
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TL;DR: In this paper, the authors present the state of the art of research on management paradoxes and then explain four regularities surfaced in the literature on this topic, and conclude by arguing that taking these regularities as a whole allows them to suggest a new perspective on paradoxes - one with a positive regard for the copresence of opposites but that takes seriously the potential relationship between these.
Abstract: Paradox is gaining more and more pervasiveness in and around organizations, thus increasing the need for an approach to management that allows both researchers and practitioners to address these paradoxes. We attempt to contribute to this project by suggesting a relational approach to paradoxes. To this aim, we first present the state of the art of research on management paradoxes and then explain four regularities surfaced in the literature on this topic. We conclude by arguing that taking these regularities as a whole allows us to suggest a new perspective on paradoxes - one with a positive regard for the co-presence of opposites but that takes seriously the potential relationship between these.
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TL;DR: McSweeney as discussed by the authors expressed a critique virulente a l'ouvrage de Geert Hofstede culture's consequences: international differences in work-related values, paru en 1980, which portait sur la validite des liens de causalite entre valeurs professionnelles and cultures nationales.
Abstract: Cet article est une reponse a Brendan McSweeney qui, dans les colonnes du n°1, du volume 55 de la presente revue (janvier 2002) avait adresse une critique virulente a l'ouvrage de Geert Hofstede Culture's consequences: international differences in work-related values, paru en 1980. Une des principales critiques portait sur la validite des liens de causalite entre valeurs professionnelles et cultures nationales. En rappellant le caractere construit des variables etudiees, l'A. rappelle qu'il ne leur attribue pas de caractere de causalite absolue
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TL;DR: In this article, the authors provide a reassessment of the processes of diffusion of innovations into organizations, based on new empirical data, and the focus of the article is the latter stages of the diffusion process.
Abstract: This article aims to provide a reassessment of the processes of diffusion of innovations into organizations, based on new empirical data. The focus of the article is the latter stages of the diffusion process. The article draws on the results of two studies, which examined the diffusion of innovations in health care in the UK. These projects were a matched pair of qualitative studies, using purposeful selections of comparative case studies. The results demonstrate the ambiguous, contested nature of new scientific knowledge. The highly interactive nature of diffusion, with active adopters is illustrated. There is no evidence of a single adoption decision. The science is socially mediated. The features of context and of actors interlock to influence diffusion.
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TL;DR: McSweeney's critique of Hofstede's model is examined in this paper, for its useful warnings to those who follow Hofstadede's research and for its logical consistency, which indicates that both functionalist and other paradigms are needed for future research into national culture and for understanding social behaviour in different national cultures.
Abstract: McSweeney’s critique (2002) rejects Hofstede’s model and finds national culture implausible as a systematically causal factor of behaviour. His critique is examined for its useful warnings to those who follow Hofstede’s research and for its logical consistency. A paradigmatic perspective identifies where McSweeney argues against Hofstede’s logic and where he rejects Hofstede’s paradigm and premises. This indicates that both the functionalist and other paradigms are needed for future research into national culture and for understanding social behaviour in different national cultures.
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TL;DR: It is proposed that ‘network learning episode’ offers a suitable unit of analysis for the empirical research needed to develop the understanding of this potentially important concept of interorganizational learning.
Abstract: The importance of interorganizational networks in supporting or hindering the achievement of organizational objectives is now widely acknowledged. Network research is directed at understanding network processes and structures, and their impact upon performance. A key process is learning. The concepts of individual, group and organizational learning are long established. This article argues that learning might also usefully be regarded as occurring at a fourth system level, the interorganizational network. The concept of network learning - learning by a group of organizations as a group - is presented, and differentiated from other types of learning, notably interorganizational learning (learning in interorganizational contexts). Four cases of network learning are identified and analysed to provide insights into network learning processes and outcomes. It is proposed that 'network learning episode' offers a suitable unit of analysis for the empirical research needed to develop our understanding of this potentially important concept.
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TL;DR: In this paper, the authors extended the concept of relational demography by considering both demographic similarities and demographic dissimilarities in supervisor-subordinate dyads, and examined the effects of relational Demography on both basic task performance and extra-role behaviors of the subordinates.
Abstract: The current study extends the concept of relational demography by considering both demographic similarities and demographic dissimilarities in supervisor-subordinate dyads We further examined the effects of relational demography on both basic task performance and extra-role behaviors of the subordinates We propose that demographic similarity, which engenders attraction, will be associated with extra-role behavior but not with basic task performance We further propose that demographic dissimilarities that are consistent with relational norms will be associated with both types of performance We tested these ideas on 335 supervisor-subordinate dyads in 10 US companies and found reasonable support for both hypotheses We discuss the implications of these findings for future research on organizational demography and management of demographic differences that are inconsistent with social cultural norms
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TL;DR: In this paper, the authors explored the human cost associated with the introduction of New Public Management (NPM) in higher education in the UK and examined the experiences and reactions of those working in academia to recent attempts to change working practices.
Abstract: In recent years academic commentators have born witness to the emergence of what has been called a New Public Management, or NPM, evident in a number of countries around the world. While the literature has sought to document its appearance and attempt to assess its impact, this article considers an aspect of the NPM which has been little explored: the human cost associated with its introduction. In examining higher education in England, one of the countries where the NPM is thought to have been embraced at least relatively enthusiastically, the article explores research on the experiences and reactions of those working in academe to recent attempts to change working practices through an analysis of the stresses and strains experienced by those subjected to the processes of managerialism. In drawing on published sources and the authors’ own empirical work it is argued that the NPM, not least in intensifying the labour of academics as intellectual workers, has provoked a range of responses which include col...
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TL;DR: In this paper, the authors examined the hypothesis that the structure of the meaning of work will remain stable over time and tested it on two independent samples of the Israeli labour force, one consisting of individuals who were interviewed twice, once in 1981 and again in 1993.
Abstract: The theoretical and empirical literature assumes stability of important attitudes and values. Accordingly, this study examined the hypothesis that the structure of the meaning of work will remain stable over time. This hypothesis was tested on two independent samples of the Israeli labour force. The first (n = 407) was a group of individuals who were interviewed twice, once in 1981 and again in 1993. The second was a new representative sample (n = 942) of the labour force, assembled in 1993, to serve as a comparison with the first sample. The findings generally support the hypothesis regarding the stability over time of the structure of the meaning of work concept.
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TL;DR: In this article, the authors argue that the content of shared mental models is also important for self-managing work teams (SMWTs), and they conduct content analyses of four published longitudinal studies of SMWTs to uncover the opportunities and challenges to developing and sustaining these mental models in dynamic organizations.
Abstract: A growing stream of theory and research suggests that overlap in team member mental models (i.e. socially constructed theories about systems and their expected behavior) has a positive influence on team processes and outcomes. In this article we argue that for self- managing work teams (SMWTs), the content of those shared mental models is also important. We begin by reviewing theory on SMWT effectiveness to determine the content of effective teamwork mental models in SMWTs. These are proposed to include: (1) psychological ownership of team processes and outcomes; (2) a need for continuous learning; and (3) a need for heedful interrelating. We then conduct content analyses of four published longitudinal studies of SMWTs to uncover the opportunities and challenges to developing and sustaining these mental models in dynamic organizations. Results suggest these mental models flourish when organizational supports back up their existence. However, since mental models are fluid and adapt to explicit and implicit...
TL;DR: The authors explored the consequences of the misfit between the theories underlying two widely adopted managerial techniques (strategic planning and quality management) and the pluralistic power structure and values of public hospitals.
Abstract: Public sector organizations are under pressure to adopt private sector tools to sustain legitimacy despite uncertainty about the compatibility of the techniques with this context. We explore the consequences of the misfit between the theories underlying two widely adopted managerial techniques (strategic planning and quality management) and the pluralistic power structure and values of public hospitals. We identify four scenarios of adaptation and use qualitative data to examine their empirical prevalence. We suggest that when the compatibility gap is large, there is greater likelihood that formalized techniques will be captured by and integrated into existing organizational dynamics (corruption of the technique) than that the technique will change these dynamics in a way consistent with its objectives (transformation of the organization). We examine the implications of our observations for understanding the role of managerial techniques in organizational change.
TL;DR: In this article, a repond a Geert Hofstede a propos de sa conception des cultures nationales and des valeurs qu'elles seraient censees vehiculer.
Abstract: L'A repond a Geert Hofstede a propos de sa conception des cultures nationales et des valeurs qu'elles seraient censees vehiculer Sur un plan methodologique, il montre la faiblesse de ses modeles de cultures nationales masculines ou feminines
TL;DR: In this paper, the central components of Transformational Leadership (TL) theory are discussed, and similarities are identified between the components concerned and the characteristics of leadership practice in organizations generally defined as cults.
Abstract: Leadership is a perennially popular topic in the academic and practitioner literature on management. In particular, the past twenty years have witnessed an explosive growth of interest in what has been termed ‘transformational leadership’ (henceforth, TL). The theory is closely linked to the growth in what has been defined as corporate culturism - an emphasis on the importance of coherent cultures, as a means of securing competitive advantage. This article outlines the central components of TL theory, and subjects the concept to a critical analysis. In particular, similarities are identified between the components concerned and the characteristics of leadership practice in organizations generally defined as cults. This connection has been previously unremarked in the literature. These similarities are comprehensively reviewed. Trends towards what can be defined as corporate cultism in modern management practice are also discussed. We conclude that TL models are overly concerned with the achievement of cor...
TL;DR: In this article, the authors contrast modern, post-modern and multiparadigm approaches to contrast their underlying assumptions, and explore the objectives, exemplars and limitations of these approaches.
Abstract: Organization studies is a robust field, replete with diverse, often contentious perspectives that may enrich understandings of pluralism and paradox. Yet polarization of modern paradigms and ruptures between modern and postmodern stances may inhibit researchers from tapping this potential. In response, this article delves into a provocative alternative - multiparadigm inquiry. First, we juxtapose modern, postmodern and multiparadigm approaches to contrast their underlying assumptions. We then review three multiparadigm strategies, exploring their objectives, exemplars and limitations. Our conclusion addresses how multiparadigm inquiry fosters greater reflexivity, while posing considerable challenges.
TL;DR: In this article, the authors examined the process through which putdown humor helps foster group identity and cohesion in a temporary group, and concluded that shared putdown humour and the implicit set of rules regarding its use may facilitate solidarity, and they attempt to reconcile why "inclusionary putdowns" were found here when "exclusionary" are usually reported in the literature.
Abstract: Participant observation of a 6-week Executive Development Course suggests that humor provides a key mechanism for enacting a sense of community for group members. Specifically, the study examines the process through which putdown humor helps foster group identity and cohesion in a temporary group. Putdowns followed a pattern of development that signaled increasing trust and inclusion, and was regulated by implicit rules that incubated the emergent solidarity. The meaning of certain humorous episodes was equivocal, but the act of laughing together glossed over the equivocality so that the sense of community was reaffirmed. Further, social identity dynamics appeared to strongly affect perceptions of the appropriateness of humor. The authors conclude that shared putdown humor and the implicit set of rules regarding its use may facilitate solidarity, and they attempt to reconcile why ‘inclusionary putdowns’ were found here when ‘exclusionary putdowns’ are usually reported in the literature.
TL;DR: Hofstede's Culture's consequences has had a profound influence on the development of cross-cultural studies within psychology, in organization studies and in the social sciences more generally as mentioned in this paper.
Abstract: Since its publication in 1980, Geert Hofstede’s Culture’s consequences has had a profound influence on the development of cross-cultural studies within psychology, in organization studies and in the social sciences more generally. Although the approach to cross-cultural studies that Hofstede pioneered has been by no means universally endorsed, many contributors to the field have nonetheless oriented their work in terms of acceptance or rejection of the key elements within his approach. The publication of a greatly revised and substantially expanded second edition (Hofstede, 2001) to this landmark work is an event requiring detailed scrutiny. The new edition, like its predecessor, is a work of meticulous scholarship. Indeed the preparation of both editions has spanned six or seven years, entailing very extensive literature search and data analysis. The new edition follows a parallel structure to the first edition, with two introductory chapters, followed by four chapters focusing upon the culture-level dimensions identified earlier. There now follow two further chapters reflecting work that Hofstede (1991) first presented in more popular form in Cultures and organisations: the added dimension of Long Term Orientation, and work on organizational cultures. Finally there are two new concluding chapters. The amount of rewriting that has gone even into those chapters whose basic format is unchanged is substantial. Each chapter includes a separate section giving greater technical detail, as well as extensive footnotes. The extended title tells us of the broader relevance that Hofstede now finds in his IBM data. The book is of course a new edition, not a new study. The IBM databank remains the primary basis for the analyses that are presented. In the
TL;DR: In this article, the authors test portions of a preliminary model of effectiveness derived from power theories and find that whistle-blowers perceive that wrongdoing is more likely to be terminated when: (i) it occurs less frequently, is relatively minor in impact, or has been occurring for a shorter period; and (ii) whistleblowers have greater power reflected in the legitimacy of their roles and the support of others.
Abstract: Organization members face difficult choices when they encounter situations which they consider illegitimate, immoral, or unlawful, but lack corrective power. They can ‘blow the whistle’ to authorities, but often, their organizations do not change the objectionable practice. Circumstances under which whistle-blowers succeed in terminating perceived wrongdoing have not been studied, so this study tests portions of a preliminary model of effectiveness derived from power theories. Results from three field studies show that whistle-blowers perceive that wrongdoing is more likely to be terminated when: (i) it occurs less frequently, is relatively minor in impact, or has been occurring for a shorter period; and (ii) whistle-blowers have greater power - reflected in the legitimacy of their roles and the support of others. Implications for research and for would-be whistle-blowers, their organizations, and policy makers, are discussed.
TL;DR: In this article, the authors discuss the characteristics of knowledge that lead to practical utility and present a framework for pragmatic validity that encompasses knowledge represented in all three modes: propositional, narrative, or visual.
Abstract: In this article we discuss the characteristics of knowledge that lead to practical utility. We first review previous efforts at identifying the characteristics of useful knowledge. These contributions are grouped into three perspectives according to which representational mode they imply: propositional, narrative, or visual. We develop a framework for pragmatic validity that encompasses knowledge represented in all three modes. However, we also note an over-reliance on the propositional mode in academia, which contrasts with a preference for narrative and visual knowledge among practitioners. Explicit and propositional knowledge are key criteria for achieving scientific validity, but more ambiguous knowledge serves important functions in organizational life and may thus possess pragmatic validity. We highlight the role of conceptual models expressed in a visual format, a representational mode that has received little attention in the literature. We end with suggestions for further research that may extend...
TL;DR: In this article, the authors argue that the concept of organizational identification can provide new and valuable insights into the dynamics of organizational change and its management, and introduce the notion of shift in identification, which consists of dis- and re-identification states that organizational members experience during change.
Abstract: This article argues that the concept of organizational identification can provide new and valuable insights into the dynamics of organizational change and its management. It introduces the notion of shift in identification, which consists of dis- and re-identification states that organizational members experience during change, and proposes a framework for the study of the communication-based influence strategies used by management to induce such shifts. The article introduces the concept of confluence, which involves providing some sense of self-consistency to members during change. Two empirical examples illustrating the influence strategies used by management are analyzed. Implications to the wider discourses on language, identification and change are addressed.
TL;DR: In this article, the authors present an analysis of the benefits of two team structures -quality circles and self-managing work groups - for Australian work organizations utilizing the Australian Workplace Industrial Relations Survey for 1995.
Abstract: This study presents an analysis of the benefits of two team structures - quality circles and self-managing work groups - for Australian work organizations utilizing the Australian Workplace Industrial Relations Survey for 1995. The analysis indicates that firms with team structures have higher labor productivity, a flatter management structure and reduced employee turnover. The presence of team structures in Australian firms indicates a decrease in industrial harmony. The findings were inconclusive regarding absenteeism and profitability.
TL;DR: In this article, the authors suggest that aesthetic muteness is caused by threats to harmony, efficiency and images of power and effectiveness and that the consequences of aesthetic amnesia, a narrowed conception of organizational ae...
Abstract: Direct questioning about the ‘felt sense’ of organizational actions or artefacts is an accepted way to explore organizational members’ aesthetic experience. However, this requires organizational members to be able to talk about their aesthetic experience, to translate that felt sense into language. I suggest this is often difficult due to aesthetic muteness, which is a significant problem, not just for research but for organizational practice in general. I use empirical data to illustrate how this aesthetic muteness is manifested in the research process as organizational members’ difficulty in approaching their experience from an aesthetic perspective, reframing from ‘feeling’ to ‘thinking’, inability to recall aesthetic experience and denial of aesthetic experience. I then speculate that aesthetic muteness might be caused by threats to harmony, efficiency and images of power and effectiveness and that the consequences of aesthetic muteness are aesthetic amnesia, a narrowed conception of organizational ae...
TL;DR: In this article, the authors argue that core constructs from new science (nonlinearity, interdependence and emergence) can provide a useful theoretical foundation for understanding the current dynamics of career behavior.
Abstract: Over the past two decades there has been a shift in the career literature from the view of a career as being a linear progression of job responsibilities within an industry, to that of a ‘boundaryless’, competency-based exploration that evolves in unexpected ways. This article argues that core constructs from ‘new science’ (non-linearity, interdependence and emergence) can provide a useful theoretical foundation for understanding the current dynamics of career behavior. The article also discusses implications of these constructs for career development practice and its contexts.
TL;DR: In this article, an integrative political process model incorporating the dynamic aspects of the relationships between parents within their environmental context is developed to study the process that leads to eventual termination of an international cooperative venture in China.
Abstract: While it is widely recognized that international cooperative ventures suffer a high rate of failure, current theories, namely transaction costs, partner selection, bargaining and learning, offer limited and disjointed reasoning for it. Each of these theories is focused on a single aspect and on a limited phase in the venture’s life, neglecting the process that leads to eventual termination. To study this process, an in-depth analysis of the demise of an international cooperative venture in China traces the critical events in the venture’s life cycle. The analysis shows that escalation of partner political behavior played a key role in the venture’s failure. An integrative political process model incorporating the dynamic aspects of the relationships between parents within their environmental context is developed.
TL;DR: In this paper, the authors examined whether individualism/collectivism (I/C) orientations predict employee attitudes and behavioral intentions, and also consider whether I/C orientation moderates the relationship between equity perceptions and these variables.
Abstract: In this study, we examine whether individualism/collectivism (I/C) orientations predict employee attitudes and behavioral intentions, and also consider whether I/C orientation moderates the relationship between equity perceptions and these variables. Four hundred and two employees from 11 high technology and financial services companies participated in this study. Results indicated that the competitiveness dimension of I/C moderated the relationships between equity perceptions and effort, and equity perceptions and obligations towards teamwork. Similarly, the solitary work preference dimension of I/C moderated the relationships between equity perceptions and career intent, and equity perceptions and obligations towards teamwork. The interactions between equity perceptions and I/C dimensions produced interesting effects. The results suggest that varying levels of equity perceptions are associated with different effects on employee attitudes and behavioral intentions depending on the level of employee indiv...
TL;DR: In this paper, differences in the experience of work-family issues between employed single and married mothers were investigated among women in lower level (Study 1) and higher-level (Study 2) occupations.
Abstract: Differences in the experience of work-family (W-F) issues between employed single and married mothers were investigated among women in lower level (Study 1) and higher level (Study 2) occupations. Few differences were found. For both single and married mothers in lower level occupations, higher organizational and supervisor support and greater use of formal policies were related to lower work interference with family (WIF) and higher family and job satisfaction. For women in higher level occupations, results depended upon marital status, family demands and income. Married women with lower family demands and higher incomes reported less informal support, but were more satisfied with formal W-F policies and rated them as more important. This was related to higher WIF, but lower family interference with work (FIW), and higher job and family satisfaction.
TL;DR: In this article, negative capability is defined as the ability to resist dispersing into defensive routines when leading at the limits of one's knowledge, resources and trust, and it is suggested that negative capability can create an intermediate space that enables one to continue to think in difficult situations.
Abstract: Our aim in this article is to explore and explain the concept of 'negative capability', in the context of the current resurgence of interest in organizational leadership. We suggest that negative capability can create an intermediate space that enables one to continue to think in difficult situations. Where positive capability supports 'decisive action', negative capability supports 'reflective inaction', that is, the ability to resist dispersing into defensive routines when leading at the limits of one's knowledge, resources and trust. The development of negative capability is discussed but it is suggested that its status is problematic in the context of a societal and organizational culture dominated by control and performativity. The practice of negative capability is illustrated throughout the article, using a case study of the leadership of an international joint venture.
TL;DR: This paper used data collected in the 1970s and 1980s from old people's homes (OPHs) in the United Kingdom to explore how aesthetics are organized in residential organizations for the elderly.
Abstract: This article uses data collected in the 1970s and 1980s from old people’s homes (OPHs) in the United Kingdom to explore how aesthetics are organized in residential organizations for the elderly. The analysis reviews the sensations to which OPH members are subjected and reveals the role of power in organizing aesthetic experiences. Paradoxes associated with framing residential organizations as homes and with controlling residents’ bodies are explored. I focus on the senses of smell, sight, touch, and sound with attention to staff and residents’ views of residents’ bodily messes and their constructions of residents’ death and dying. In exploring the ‘spirit of a place,’ I differentiate homey from institutional facilities (as ideal types) by noting their physical, cultural, and social attributes. In a section on socially constructing residents’ bodies, I explore how homey (more than institutional) OPHs use power to enhance residents’ dignity and rights. Conclusions affirm the value of placing the ethnographe...
TL;DR: In this article, a new middle-ground perspective on the learning organization, referred to as the "fluorescent light" view, incorporating elements from both optimist and negative ideology is presented.
Abstract: Based on Coopey’s critical review of the terms ‘Utopian sunshine’ and ‘Foucauldian gloom’ with regard to the learning organization (Coopey, 1998), this article explores the learning organization from two opposing perspectives. While researchers agree that the learning organization concept is an important one for organization science, two seemingly irreconcilable research communities are arguing about whether the learning organization is a dream or a nightmare for its members, particularly with regard to three critical dimensions: control, ideology and potentially painful employee experiences. The purpose of this article is to review and critically examine both the optimistic view of the learning organization as positive ideal and the more critical view of the learning organization as negative ideology. Based on this examination, the article aims to synthesize a new middle-ground perspective on the learning organization, referred to as the ‘fluorescent light’ view, incorporating elements from both optimist...
TL;DR: The authors assume that the collective identities of both Jews and Palestinians in Israel have long been constructed around the Jewish-Palestinian conflict, a major focus of social and historical reality in the Middle East region, and assume that these constructions of identity underwent a process of deconstruction and reconstruction, primarily due to changes in the political reality (the peace process), globalization, and the surfacing of conflicts that were hidden within the monolithic construction.
Abstract: This study assumes that the collective identities of both Jews and Palestinians in Israel have long been constructed around the Jewish-Palestinian conflict, a major focus of social and historical reality in the Middle East region. Monolithic in their early stages, these constructions of identity underwent a process of deconstruction and reconstruction, primarily due to changes in the political reality (the peace process), globalization, and the surfacing of conflicts that were hidden within the monolithic construction. The deconstruction process, though painful and problematic, creates new opportunities for a dialogue that engages elements of identity, which no longer ‘fit’ the contenders. Such a dialogue took place in ‘laboratory’ form at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev from October 1996 and June 1997 between two leading participants in an ongoing workshop for Jewish and Palestinian Israeli students. Most conflict group encounters are measured by outcomes, not by process. We identified problems when t...